I have decided that Lily M is going to have to go.
I bought her with the intention of keeping her, with her immaculate engine, for about five years while I sailed out to and around the outer Hebrides, Jura, Islay, Fingals Cave etc etc but that will all have to go on the back burner for a couple of seasons or so.
There is nothing wrong with the boat, apart from the absence of a heater, she is perfect for the job but I have simply run out of budget. It costs £100 in diesel every time I drive to Scotland. The pontoon is Kip is currently costing £100 a month so I neeed to get shot of the boat before the pontoon prices go through the roof. T
I will sell her this spring and then put the money released into getting Katie L back into good condition.
The trailer needs £1000 spent on it, the nicked outboard needs replacing, she needs re-wiring and the centre plate pivot bolt is getting sloppy. I reckon that I have enough material in the can to make about ten more films which I will scatter through the rest of this winter and next. Then I will see where I stand.
The last film was a massive success in terms of numbers who watched it and the number of minutes watched. It was a record for any of my films - but the paypal taps were right down - netting about $600 - barely enough for two winter hits to Glasgow and noty enough to justify the three weeks it took to edit the film.
I am sure many of you spotted it , but I made this short film and only put it on youtube
You guys who come to this website are fantastic and have kept the show on the road but when it comes to youtube 120 taps for 8,000 hits is unsustainable.. Please don't send me your sympathies. I am an old freelance hack and have hit the financial buffers several times over my 40 year career. The secret is to see the cash flow problem coming and not get into debt so that is why I am "sweating the assets" as Julian said in one of his emails.
The journey has been great so far and it will get under way again. It will be no bad thing to close the gap between the time when the time when the films are shot and the time when they are ready to go on the web. So I have frilms to come about the west coast of scotland - not the islands and also quite a few about the summer of 2015 which was spent in and around the Firth of Forth and the Moray Firth.
Centaurs are easy to buy and easy to sell - and who knows, one day I might end up buying a third one
It will be great to get back to the little boat again - she sails so beautifully
when I made this film I expected to keep Lily M for five years and to0 do a lot of miles in her
When you are a sailor plans are always changing.
Sounds like a good plan. Where are you going to sail Katie L then next? Irish Sea; Welsh coast; Bristol Channel; SW peninsular; Dorset? The British Isles is your oyster and that is the beauty of a trailer sailer and your Minstrel is probably the best available with her sensible accommodation for 2 people and her easily erected rig and her outboard.
Good luck
Justin
bigger boats just cost more … and you can have as much fun on a small boat. i’ve put a bit towards your boat/fuel fund via paypal.
Dylan, can you remind me of your email. I think you’ve changed it since April 2016 when we last corresponded. I’ve a proposition to put to you. Don’t rush to buy an outboard. Talk to me first.
Justin
Dylan, sailing around rocks is okay for a while, but I suspect muddy estuaries are where your heart lies. :-)
Plenty of those further South. I can imagine you exploring the Mersey and the Dee via Katie L and getting the old Mojo back. Probably half the distance by car too. Plenty of history to explore.
I suspect Ireland would have to wait too, If you attempted a circumnavigation I can’t imagine the cost of travelling over there by car. Maybe a few weeks of the summer exploring the Eastern side in Katie L?
Then after the seaside towns of Wales, you’ve got the Bristol channel. Lots to see there and plenty of mud at low tide too.
Sounds like a reasonable plan…especially with the driving distances involved now you’re going to be based on the Deben. Driving the equivalent of NY to Chicago and back for a few days of sailing in dodgy weather is madness. Sailing is supposed to be fun….
Plus, you already have several years of video-footage of Northern Scotland in Harmony and KatieL, and Western Scotland in LilyM in the can for future editing and post-production. Getting caught-up has it’s own virtues. There’s little value in getting too-far ahead of yourself.
The nice thing about a trailer-sailer is the trailer. Upgrade KatieL and you still have the option of with the VW estate to mount extended warm-weather campaigns around the Irish Sea and Wales in the future — while exploring other, closer waters during the balance of the year. I’m sure there are plenty of places you might wish to re-visit, or the deserve a 2nd-look. Now that you have a near-perfected folding River-Rig for KatieL you can access the wider canals and quiet rivers nearer to home.
…And there’s the Norfolk Broads to revisit. KatieL is a much better sailer for the Broads compared to the Slug.
Or the only man dumb enough to sell the first one… ?
Scotland and the Clyde are amazing few boats big skies great wildlife but
the weather all four seasons in a day and the journey from the south by train car or plan takes a lot of the fun out of it
The east cost is stunning for a small boat marsh mud birds
the south west has great rivers the Dart Lyner Fal and not to far
I take my boat there from the over crowded solent most years and stop for a month or so cheap ish mooring and the train is not to bad life is full of ups and downs
ps we met at GXSA a few years ago great talk
Thanks
I’ve emailed you with a proposition.
Justin
Very nice to hear that the saga will continue. We would not be able to cope with the idea of you stopping the sailing venture completely. We will stay tuned for the next development whether it will be by Centaur, Hunter Minstrel or duck punt. North Sea sound interesting, are you thinking of doing Holland?
I think I find the Katie L and slug stuff far more watchable and enjoyable. Once you got a “big” yacht you were just a guy sailing, it lost something in my view, sorry
Rather stunned when I received the news this morning, but on the positive side looking forward to those films. I’m sure you will gain a lot of satisfaction from completing the upgrade’s on Katie L, sailing her closer to home and renewing your (and our) acquaintance with the East Coast. We must hold you to that Hebridean summer though!
I think we all walk a tightrope when it comes to sailing and marriage.
Life is such a balancing act!
Maybe now is the time to soft pedal on sailing for a year or two?
I wish you all the very best and thank you for the fun we have all had…. at your expense.
Its interesting you say more tappers sail “full headroom boats” I assume that reflects a better financial position. Ok my creek crawler cost more than LilyM to buy but the on going costs are minimal. Anyway I find the edges more interesting sailing.
Dylan I must join Dave in his opinion that Slug & Katie L were more fun to watch… I understand your point regarding standing headroom etc, however I will be (also) 61 this year and I find my Vivacity 20 perfect… except I sail mostly alone, wife find it too small etc…. I look at it as a good exercice ( which I do need ) and it helps keeping old (arthritic) joints in some shape…. somehow sailing a bigger boat brings you in a realm of normal I would say…. compared to sailing small boats which by default give everything a real sense of adventure…. also makes you one of a very few, as most of the people look to have some comfort on water (starting with standing headroom)…. in any case all the best with your plans and will keep watching for sure and tapping when we can.. Z.
Agree fully with you, thank you for taking time to reply-comment. Very true that it comes to having a right boat – for what you want to do and where. Keep well and i hope you find a good captain for Lily M very soon !
There was an inevitability about this outcome. The logistics and financial implications of operating so far from home and in all seasons were obvious to us all. I commend you for carrying on as long as you did. I would like to sincerely thank you for the video archive of your voyage which I will watch for years to come. Your films are informative, interesting, funny and beautifully made. By the Dylan Winter Active Sailing Formula’ I see that I have only two years left so I had better crack on. P.
Both bad and good news – can’t wait to see Katie L in action again. Just been doing the centreplate on my lib if you want to swap notes.
I don’t know all your circumstances but could you give up the house and get a nice comfortable live aboard for a season or so just too fill your northern aspirations.
Careful!
Jill gives Dylan a lot of slack but that sounds like marital suicide unless Jill believes it was her idea.
I’ve just realised that by moving to Walb……. you’ve increased your journey time to anywhere by about 3 hours!!!
We need to get you up and running with KatieL asap.
If it works for spotify it can work for KTL….
Can you please explain?
Well you got 3 more years of Scottish sailing than I will ever see and I am grateful for you showing it to me, I understand some of the attraction.
Its a shame more folks don’t enjoy the skinny bits, Beaumont Quay was one of my all time favorites ,( I think you cut the bit where you went under the power lines with your son…..)
https://vimeo.com/114797018
The world of Blogging and now V-blogging is changing as fast as they can think up new ways to get our precious viewing hours and money (hence why I avoid FB, Twitter, instagram, etc) so you have to move with the times too.
I look forward to the changes and improvement that it will bring you.
The good thing is the waters you are sailing are still just as interesting as when you started this journey.
Cheers warren
I didn’t mean to make it sound like a resignation. I see it as a necessary change of course brought about by prevailing conditions. I am confident that the MOBs have plenty o look forward to. Interesting times ahead. P.
I too was slightly shocked that Dylan is to sale “Lille M”, but do understand the costs involved Driving up to Scotland and the Marina fees, I just hope it was not a certain Photographer in Troon last year put a damper on things?.
The recent Videos are fantastic and watched the last one through my Video Projector on the Home Cinema Screen :).
Keep up the good work and look forward to read about the “Katie L” later this years Adventures.
Ah “Change”
As an MOB I think I resist change
However it will be a new chapter.
Hope you film the selling process and the work done on “Katie L”. I for one enjoy watching the peripheral activities involved in your boats as much as the actual trips. All part of the journey
That’s better. Now I can embrace the change. Full steam ahead Dylan!
Since others have said it, I’m going to admit that I was much more into the KTL project when it was an old bloke in a little trailer sailer up a creek banging on about birds, tides, shapes in the mud, and whining about jet skies, mobo wash etc, all juxtaposed with some lovely film work and well picked music. I spent many late nights with a nice rum or scotch in hand relaxing and forgetting about my crap day at work and my KTL DVDs still sit proudly in my bookcase with my sailing books! In fact I even met another sailor on a beach, on an island, here in Australia and KTL came up and he said similar about the East Coast stuff. Maybe you should go back to where you started and start turning right for a while in that lovely little Katie L You’d have to add something clever to the name of the project of course, but as long as you had covered everything in the end, most of us would be happy I think :-)
What about doing the bit from Falmouth the Bembridge in KatieL then you will have been all the way round and you can pick off the bits you haven’t explored properly bit by bit as time permits. It’s quite a drive to Falmouth for the first bit but after that it’s gets less each time notwithstanding that Walberswick is very close to the middle of nowhere ( one of its greatest attractions!)
Ian
Many interesting comments from your other acolytes Dylan but, for myself, I tend to think of this shift in the project as merely your latest fine demonstration of the sailors art…… trimming your sails to suit the wind. I would expect nothing less from a Master Mariner. Fair Winds
Enjoy the Maybush
Have you found your permanent home then. I don’t know that area but it looks interesting.
Good luck
Justin
The cheapest boats to sail are other people’s. How about making videos using the contacts you’ve made on here? Different boat and different MOB each time so lots of variety.I’m sure you’d be welcome to stay on board wherever you go so the only expense would be getting to the location. You might even be able to flog articles to the magazines?
Here is a radical suggestion Dylan. You could move to Scotland for a couple of years. Think of the travelling you would avoid!
Or did I understand you have bought another house?
It’s the change we don’t like I guess. As in many things, routine in our viewing and in our viewing expectations perhaps dictate that we must look at this development as a bit undesirable, for us.
Ian said it best above, after you of course. But then again it’s not any of us you’re trying to reach.
I have a friend who is enamored with Scotland – think I’ll send her a link to one of your posted videos and see if she’ll become interested in following along more closely.
And again, seems to me your collection of works is perhaps the most comprehensive cruising guide to the UK ever made. Has Facebook been an asset in driving viewers to any of your collections?
Keith
Hi,
Just a few points worth consideration. Ive sinned and watched several videos without tapping. Having said that I HAVE INDEED TRIED TO PAY, not everyone does paypal. what I really enjoy is Dylan and his humour, Really I’m not too bothered in the detail, my fondest memory has to be the wash created from the launch on the Solent. films covering other peoples boats and sailing topics with Dylan sounds a winner. Just think of the topics that could be covered, Dylan I hope you continue to enjoy your sailing.
Steveeasy
Have you considered crowdfunding her refit? Or selling KTL merch? I’d buy a t-shirt ;)
Dinghy cruising is very cheap, and people have gone a long way in drascombes, wayfarers and even old Mirror dinghies (mirror cruising is a favourite YouTube channel) and manage to live on board. I’ve got the Ouse, Rother and Cuckmere in Sussex to run my sailing canoe up this year. You’re welcome to bring the duck punt if you fancy an adventure ;)
I love your vids and I’ve been watching a couple a day since I discovered them after Christmas. My four year old wants to go sailing with me after sitting on my lap gazing at your Norfolk trips. Katie L is a lovely little boat and I look forward to seeing her exploring the Carrick Roads where I learned to sail, when you get that far!
Please start a Patreon account, it is working so well for others, I see no reason it wouldn’t work for your “business model”. Not sure if they are still out of budget or what they sail like, but have you seen a Swin Ranger before? Standing headroom motor sailor in a 22 foot package.
HTH, R.
Well ultimately it’s up to you, but if you never try you’ll never know ;-) Either way, I’ve stuck another fiver in the kitty.
Hardy 20 Motor Sailor; another budget boat I can think of with standing headroom.
R.
My brother gets a very nice income of around £600 a month from his youtube stuff. Its just links and ads, on his quirky little vids he makes. No one has to pay anything. The secret is it appeals to all the kids etc when they come home from school. They go on facebook and talk about what they have seen so it get more exposure so his vids are often featured which drive the numbers up even more. I think he gets 10p everytime someone follows one of links. Us MOB’s are never going to do this, I can’t stand facebook and all the dribble you get with it!
Hello dylan,
did you ever meet up with the wharram catamaran owner and if so…how did it go ?
steve
You should make a video that you are selling the boat. May catch ‘youtubists’ attention.
My guess is that people are not donating as they are not used to it. It’s not culturally typical.
Also I’d love to see more of the duck punt.
Unboxing video’s, there are hundreds.
Hi Dylan – just a quickie on boat suitability for around ireland – would the hurley 22 be better than the minstrel? – cheaper to maintain than a centaur and has good seaworthiness reputation – have you had much experience with them in the past?
I believe he is 75 now !!………. so you have a few years
Could you do both?
There might be more than enough blokes willing to contribute to a Patreon account and the benefit or such an account for me is that I don’t have to remember to tap to contribute. Jut something going out every month that I can stick in the accounts as a recurring amount and not have to bother about it again.
What can I say? I’m a lazy old git!
D, l have to agree with Dave, Zoran et al. I really miss the irreverent funny bloke with the Slug putzing around the creeks.
My wife, a sailboat owner herself, loved the Sheltland show, although will leave the early stuff you did to me.
odd, as she enjoys trips up our creeks and rivers, Hence a pay pay from each of us.
Roll on Katie L, at 71 this spring l can’t wait to get our shoal draft fleet going, just takes me half the morning to get going myself.
Get on her asap, my gimpyness kills my sense of humour and ambition some days.
peter c.
Yes plans change, thats boats and life i guess.
It might just be me but i haven’t enjoyed the films with the centaur anything like as much as the ones with the slug and especially with the minstrel, maybe its the places that you have filmed but i felt there was a real charm to the earlier east coast films. My offer of helping with the electrics still stands btw having just re-wired another boat project.