galley box designs – KTL sailors offering

this from Dan


Hi Dylan


I saw your post on YBW, but don’t have time to post these pictures to there.


Ref your box, here’s my quick 2penith..


A few thoughts..


1, Not sure I see the value of the hole in the top to drop the cooker into, looks a bit of a pain in the ass, as the gaps are obviously bigger than the cooker when its sat in it, and will end up with food going into the box.


I'd consider using a simple batten frame to contain the cooker, only needs to be about an inch tall, you could also consider using the gimbals, by mounting them on the top of the box, and having them hinge inwards, so when the cooker is in store they fold down.


2, If you're making a solid box, 12mm ply with a rebate along the edges of the top and bottom, and one of each side, when glued together produces a very solid box form, without the need for a frame.


If you had 2 drawers, you could add a central support the box, and make it 5 sided, i.e. have an end opening. These drawers could be held in with a simple toggle, such that gravity keeps the toggle from opening.


If you did away with the door, and made a couple of slide out drawers, these could be retained with a couple of twisting stops, with the added benefit of being able to open the draw and use the stop to stop it being pulled out too far.


You could then one draw to  draw to house cutlery, condiments etc.. and the other the stove and maybe spare fuel?


I’ll have a think about the bottom bit J


There are a number of ways you could then fasten the whole thing down, so that its steady in operation.


Attached are my very rough sketches!


Kind Regards



this also came in from Mac Macdonald - the inverting gimbles is a great idea


ello Dylan.


Whilst winding down tonight I drew up some sketches for the galley. These are loosely based on an idea I had for a boat design which will never see the light of day years ago, but I think a production trailer sailer reviewed in PBO a couple of years ago had the same thing, so here goes.


The main concept is to have use the maximum amount of space in the Qberth that does (usually) go to waste in small boats, with only dirty socks and damp spinnakers shoved up the back end. So a big light square box needs to be built which will run on both small rollers at the underside and crucially, on alloy tracking at the top edge. This tracking must run parallel on both sides of the Qberth and the outboard track should extend as far forward as necessary so the whole box can be run out for use. When run out, and when stowed, bolt fitted to the side of the box can be used to stop the box rolling in and out, and secure it in a seaway.

This alloy tracking can either be proper mast or dinghy sheet car track, but a far cheaper version is the stuff used to hang sliding cupboard doors with. this also comes with appropriate door hangars which attach to the box back on the outboard side. The base rollers which should carry a good proportion of the weight can be got from B&Q, but may need thin Ply "tracks" glueing to the bunk top to provide a bearing surface. When stowed, these tracks should be covered by cushions anyway so ought'nt to be a nuisance. Think of it as a huge sliding drawer.


The inboard track can just be mounted in the Qberth, but the outboard track needs to be mounted on a stout wooden bar which need to be both twice the length of the box to allow full travel, and be securely bonded to the hull. Not sure what the layout is like but most small grp boat joinery is similar, so the tricky bit will be measuring and keeping the alloy tracks parallel. The outboard track can run just underneath the foam backrest and be out of the way.


So then, what's in the box? Depends on how long you want to make it. It is really important for safety that the box is securely bolted down so that it cannot move even if you hit a big wave, (or a jetskier recognises you and decides its time for payback) and that all parts in the box cannot move.


So I'm assuming you can get at least 5 feet of stowage space at your disposal. When fully out you may have to shorten a bunk cushion and make a new insert piece, but this is easy, and all you need is a domestic sewing machine.


The top lids of both bits should form a useful flat surface. Cheap white melamine top and bottom with a little mahogany lip on the front edge should give you loads of extra working surface. Both sections open out and in the aft one, you can put the stove and stove booster box. (page 2) I'm sure you could weld up a thin steel tray and gimbal combo to sit within the booster box. I'd really try and get a gimbel set up. I checked the prices of Origo part on ebay and they are just silly, and getting a metal shop to make you one to your own spec would be a better plan. It is of course vital that the whole tower of the stove assembly cannot move. I personally wouldn't bother with a booster box and just have the stove slotting into the top level of the main box.


Bottom of page 2 I've got a sort of layout suggestion, though with about 5 useable feet of space you'd have loads of room. I've added in a 5 litre water container and folding water pump/tap (caravan suppliers) which could fit to the underside of the lid, so its ready when the lid is lifted. As the foam backrest protrudes slightly, the box lid A has to be hinged a few inches in from the back of the box, but this would protect the foam from any splashes. A removable washing-up bowl, stowage for pans, kettle, cutlery etc., in a pull-out drawer. Go nuts.


I'd usually mock up something like this in cardboard before cutting wood, but I'd think that made of 6mm ply, with light epoxy filleting would make a very stiff strong yet light box. Probably a winter project though.


As for the navigation kit, I'd move the VHF and electrical panel to the front side of where the gas stove is. I've had a bad experience of a big breaking wave soaking a VHF sited too near the hatch. And if your stove blows up, you need to be able to call for help away from a fire. The lockers on the port side on the boat on the front of the Head bulkhead wall would make great battery/ camera/ charging station and the nav stuff maybe should go there. I don't know if you use charts much but I had great success in an old Virgo Voyager with a half sized chrat table which was a sheet of ply hinged to fold against the window. It was braced by a couple of 8mm rope sections which meant I could be thrown against it by the motion of the boat, but it was big enough to use and folded right out of the way when not in use.


Anyway I'm starting to ramble on and its way past my bedtime.


Good luck with whatever you decide to do.



Paul sent this link




Paul Harris also sent me a couple of snaps



Hey Dylan,

Regarding the latest vlogs about the galley.  I like what you are doing, but I think you are being a typical engineering type and being

overcomplicated! ;-)   Firstly, I would secure the stove into the box

even if it does end up a little lower than you would like.  Does it really matter if you have to bend down to stir your scrambled eggs once in a while, or take the lid off your patent pie warmer!  Jamie Oliver might require his stove at just the right height, but people with cooking habits like you (and me) -  probably not! LOL


On my last boat I had a simple plywood box structure which had somewhere for the stove, a large storage area underneath and room for a 20 litre water container,  a small square sink in side with pump tap.  Looking at the attached pictures, your probably thinking,  well that sink looks bloody useless.  It was small, but fine for teeth

brushing, washing plates, cups and cutlery.   Anything larger and I’d

wash them with some water in a 99 cent plastic bucket in the cockpit.

We have never worried about using hot water to wash up in our boats, but the climate is different here I guess.  Our galley screwed in place with a couple of screws.


You could easily have a simple box on a couple of rails that would

slide under that birth, perhaps with a hinged splash plate,   and if

you wanted, perhaps a couple of rope handles to carry it to the car.

Put a small sink like the one I had, or perhaps one of those stainless bowl ones in it, that you could just lift out and dump over the side.

Some photos are attached of the simple galley box I had in my last boat.


Anyway, I thought I’d show ya a non engineering simple mans galley box

:-) , but looking forward to seeing your final product,  and more importantly, seeing ya out on the water using it!


Paul Harris

Gold Coast










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One Response to “galley box designs – KTL sailors offering”

  1. 7 May, 2014 at 10:29 pmStanfill says:

    We like the banquette seating information on this site.

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