I have discovered that the Cox 22 master mariners are as rare as hens teeth. I am keeping my eyes open but each day I also type the legend "Westerly Centaur" into google picture search, set the image date to 24 hours and up comes today's crop.
I look at them all just to see what is happening and most days another couple come on the market. I have made an insulting offer on the Edinburgh Centaur with the dead engine. The bloke is asking 3.3 K and I have asked if he will accept 2K.
It has no spray hood - which is bad - but judging from the snaps, the rest of the boat looks old but servicable
While looking I came across this Centaur
http://www.rightboat.com/boats-for-sale/westerly-centaur-26-165602
The interior has been well fettled
before scoffing though gents
this floor pattern has a fine history
this is Nelson's cabin on the Victory
The agent’s blurb suggests four can sleep in the cockpit. I think not.
Trying to picture that. A shortie across the stern, one on each bench and another on the cockpit floor? No thank you.
Was the vanity sink in the head an optional extra? I can’t remember seeing it on the list I saw. We don’t have one, and I had to make my own infill for the forecabin.
I can’t say much about the flooring, it’s what is in our bathroom and toilet at home :)
That floor would give me nightmares! What could he have been thinking?
Not sure about the long curtains next to the cooker? Or are they ‘slide mounted tea towels ™’ ?
Nice boat. I suspect they meant it sleeps 4 “in the cabin”, not the cockpit, although it must be tight getting into that quarter-berth BEHIND the rear dinette’s backrest.
Checkerboard and diamond-patterned painted oilcloth flooring has a long nautical tradition, and was very popular here in the States during the Colonial and post-Independence period before rugs could be machine-made. Especially for entry halls, reception rooms and dining rooms. …Running the pattern up the bulkheads, not-so-much.
I like the slatted cockpit seats and floor…easier to keep dryer and “stuff” dryer. And it looks like fresh-water cooling for the diesel which saves on a lot of corrosion.
Looks 95% ready to journey-in. Can you trailer her North? Or another epic sail up the east-coast?
A Pageant is 3′ shorter, as I’m sure you know. Where do you sleep on a Centaur? We use the forecabin and leave the saloon as living space, not sure you could get 2 grownups in a Pageant forecabin.
The saloon is about the same though, I think some of the 3′ is lost in the short half of the V berth to make room for the bog.
I slide the curtains aft before lighting the early morning kettle. They don’t ignite.
You can’t beat a wheelhouse for keeping cosy though….
Well, the one in Scotland is;
a. already in Scotland, and
b. has the more desirable “B” interior with the L-shaped saloon-table sette’.
I went back and looked at your posts on the Centaur engine well from 2013. They certainly were popular here in the States in the 1960 and 70s for boats between 26-30 feet with the outboard in the lazarette aft of the rudder in the overhang. Bristol and C&C built a number of different designs with wells, as the the prolific designer Carl Alberg. In-part a gasoline outboard — and it’s tank — in the lazarette provided an alternative to the then-ubiquitous Atomic-4 and the dangers on gas-fumes in the bilges. It wasn’t until safer, smaller “lightweight” diesels that American builders started to move the motor back inboards on sailboats.
Your conceptuals would have the engine more-forwards in front of the rudder where it should stay immersed better than a transom-mount in pitching seas or a riverine short-chop. Cleaned-up, the former engine compartment could be utilized for additional storage and maybe some additional water tankage. And you can always add a radar-arch like ‘Harmony’ has, that pushpit looks like it need reinforcing and straightening anyway.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/112807869/Westerly-Pageant
Take a peek, I too was looking for a Centaur when I came across a fantastic Pageant, re-engine, diesel cabin heater, new electronics and disc VHS radio. Made the man a cheeky offer and the silly fool accepted it so I became the new owner. Absolutely no regrets, everything a Centaur is, sails incredibly well on a 19 foot waterline. The only thing I will say is it is advertised as 5 berths, in reality I would say 3. 1 in the fore cabin, 1 on the converted saloon table (small double) and one in the port side quarter berth.
Interesting, it looks like the mast is on the coach-roof like the KatieL, rather than being keel-stepped like a Centaur. That might be a real advantage for river sailing.
I wonder it she’d fit on your trailer for the KatieL? Probably need to modify or build a different trolley for the existing trailer. Both boats being trailer-able would give you more flexibility in future years, and are self-loading and can be used to store on the hard.
I quite like the checkerboard pattern in the boat pictured. Makes a refreshing change.
I’m she you have seen this centaur, it’s had a hard dog house fitted
http://www.theyachtmarket.com/boats_for_sale/52717/?searchid=10431556&page=5
Possible the best of both worlds but prehaps the hard top could be bigger, wonder if it has canvas to extend it.
Apparently 18884 views of this so what is the problem?
Warren
Looking thru way to many listings……I cam across this unfortunately new boat but it does have what you need
And outboard in well OR inboard
http://youtu.be/GKhBhPa__oo
Clever them Pols.
W
Centaur masts aren’t keel stepped. I remember taking one down in Holland when a bridge was stuck closed and it ment either take it down or sail back 2 days! It wasn’t easy with 2 blokes and 2 women but we managed it and put it back up again which was pretty hard without a crane.
Justin
Sailing a centaur since 29 years. Still use that green rusting lump of a volvopenta md2b. As long as its working properly i’ll stick with it. When there are serious repairs i’ll switch to electric propulsion for manouvering and an additional outboard on the stern for longer hauls in, more or less, well less aint possible then, so say less wind instead of zero beaufort. Why would you need pressure on the rudder when you are just going straight ahead? Only when entering port you need manouvrability! Then the electrics can come in handy. If range aint a problem four HD batteries will do the job!
Regards,
Gjalt