Two very different fishers




I hope sailing one does not make me sick –

on the bright side… I have never been seasick apart from on a trawler – but I got over that fairly soon


This is about Sailing around Britain.

33 Responses to “Two very different fishers”

  1. 29 September, 2018 at 11:57 pmNiall says:

    Go on Dylan, buy it.

    • 30 September, 2018 at 12:01 amdylan winter says:

      there is just one minor problem – the same old one….

      my ambitions are running ahead of the game/paypal

      however, I would have said that the belgian ones looks like an excellent bet.

      I shall keep am eye on it and see if it is still around in January

      Meanwhile…. off up the Tay…. virtually


  2. 30 September, 2018 at 11:14 amjack says:

    We’ll, I very much like the Fisher abroad……. so that said, and you buy it. I’ll throw my hat in the ring to help deliver it to Blighty…… I’ve checked my dance card and I’ll be free for free…..? Who doesnt love a lumpy north sea in the early months?……

  3. 30 September, 2018 at 11:16 amjack says:

    Well, I very much like the Fisher abroad……. so that said, and you buy it. I’ll throw my hat in the ring to help deliver it to Blighty…… I’ve checked my dance card and I’ll be free for free…..? Who doesnt love a lumpy north sea in the early months?……

  4. 30 September, 2018 at 6:11 pmNiall says:

    Equity release? Sell a kidney? You know it makes sense 😝

  5. 1 October, 2018 at 8:13 amTed Timberlake says:

    When the time comes I hope that you get a good one. I guess that the rolly polly action is a lot to do with the hull shape, and maybe being just under the motor. One cannot see if in both videos they are setting the mizzen as a steady sail which would help subdue the roll. Maybe the ketch mizzen is too large, and it could be worth having a smaller mizzen aboard for such a situation. Another sail to add to your collection.

    • 1 October, 2018 at 8:17 amdylan winter says:

      more sails…. more sails… more sails….

      the roof of my shed is already like a museum of sails

      as for getting a good one

      I am a bit fettle phobic so I hope that I do not get one that needs too much work. I have spent way too much of my life fixing up old boats

      Not as much time as those who love yard time – but I would rather be on the water


      • 5 October, 2018 at 1:12 pmMark the Skint Sailor says:

        There’s got to be a SuperDave in your neck of the woods Surely Dylan.

        The Zen way is…If you buy it, they will come… or you can just advertise on your site for one.

        Either that or buy a boat near Chi and get the original SuperDave to work on it. ;-)

    • 1 October, 2018 at 1:46 pmPeter Truelove says:

      There speaks a committed yawl sailor.

  6. 1 October, 2018 at 9:47 amApplescruffs says:

    there are two or three Fishers moored on the river, if you asked verrry nicely maybe one of the owners would take you out for a spin so you could find out for yourself if you like the motion….. most boat owners are only too pleased to show off their …err …boats.

    Tell the owner that you have always admired such a craft…instant brownie point……and you were thinking of getting one……another brownie point……and there’s the promise of a pint in the Maybush afterwards….done deal!



    • 1 October, 2018 at 10:19 amdylan winter says:

      there are – but they seldom leave the estuary.

      I know that fishers will not sail well in light conditions – but then neither did the centaurs nor the slug. Katie is a sparkling little yacht.

      . what I need to do is to take a fisher out when the weather is really crap…. … but in heavy weather it would be hard to persuade my local timorous fisher sailors to take me out in a blow.

      I will just have to suck it up when it hits and report back.

      I have watched those rough weather sailing films fairly carefully – I am not sure that those shots of Tutak running are any worse than on a Centaur…

      . okay maybe a bit worse…

      . I am betting my stomach can handle it – 62 now and so far so good.

      The main thing is I would be warm and dry. Today would be a sparkling day to be at sea – but it would be very cold.

      • 1 October, 2018 at 1:15 pmApplescruffs says:

        Maybe one of the timorous fisher sailors would be glad of a bit of hand holding from an experienced sailor and would jump at the chance of getting outside of the river…

        Regarding the rough weather I’m sure that you would be fine in a bit of a blow, but how about Mrs Winter ?…

        Still I guess that’s what they are designed to do….or is it just a design affectation , that rugged trawler look, do they actually perform at sea as well as the design leads you to believe?

        I would seriously think about ‘having a go’ in one if you can before spending that amount of cash.

        Just saying ….



  7. 1 October, 2018 at 3:01 pmTed Timberlake says:

    Isn’t the answer to check in with one of the advertised fishers and request that you are able to try her out before making a decision, as Richard suggests. Surely, the owner/agent could hardly say no to such a request if they are “serious” about selling, and you, of course, are “serious” about buying.

    • 1 October, 2018 at 3:04 pmdylan winter says:


      I have watched fishers being sailed in heavy weather – both on film and in the flesh. The only time I would like to experience one is in a six or above. No one is going to offer you a test sail under those conditions. I had never sailed a Centaur, or an eboat, or a sonata or a minstrel before buying one….

      It will be fine.


  8. 1 October, 2018 at 4:44 pmDave says:

    Fishers on the Salish Sea do a lot of motorsailing unless the wind is a reach or downwind. Their high freeboard, short rigs, and weight means light wind and adverse current not their friend ;-).

    With their tall pilot house a bit more roll is to be expected.

    • 1 October, 2018 at 7:47 pmdylan winter says:

      Centaurs and mirror offshores do a lot of motoring unless running or reaching. I do have the tides to move us along which is always nice.

      There is a lot of windage but you can use it a bit to create drive when fetching.

      The first thing I would do with any fisher is to remove the dodgers – useless on a motor sailor, remove any steps and radar from the masts,,, might even get the red genoa re-cut to fit as a ghoster.

      As you can see from the last films I am a chronic sail tweaker

      Jon and Rodger, who sailed up the North sea with me, said that I am hyperactive when it comes to tweaking sails


  9. 1 October, 2018 at 7:54 pmDominic Duncan says:

    Looks in good condition. I have many friends who are involved in yacht surveys. All of whom seem to have contacts all over Europe. So if you would like I could probably get recommendations should you need it.

    Kind regards,



    • 1 October, 2018 at 8:22 pmdylan winter says:

      Thanks Dom – although I am now so old

      and have been have been kicking around plastic yachts for so long

      and buy plastic ones that are so close to the bottom of the plastic market

      that yacht surveyors will only tell me what I can see for myself.

      A bit of Osmosis here sir(which you should have treated) , there is no rust/there is signs of rust on the rig sir (which you should replace) , the engine oil is dirty sir (so you need to get an engineer to give it the once over), there is slop in the cutlass gland(but there is supposed to be slop in a cutlass gland.)

      One of the advantages I have with buying boats is that when I make an offer it is not subject to survey – the money can change hands within hours. I never have and never would buy a boat on tick.

      All I can say is that buying boats is a lot simpler than buying horses – which I have also done

      A yacht is a much more honest thing than a horse.

      This evening I took the dog for a walk – passed two fishers. I have also left a note on one in Levington that has been out of the water for a year or so – so I am always thinking about them


  10. 2 October, 2018 at 7:26 pmNiels Seaton says:

    Send me a personal email and I can give you details of 2 Cornwall based F25 owners both of whom are very enthusiastic and would love to chat – one of whom has offered to take you for a sail (weather permitting) before boat comes out of water on 18 October



  11. 2 October, 2018 at 10:47 pmEd Bourgoine says:

    Look like good options (says one who knows not of what he speaks). Just like to point out that the first example DOES have the requisite “red” sails.. three of them in fact! Can it get any better?

  12. 3 October, 2018 at 3:59 pmTed Timberlake says:

    The “red” of the first is in fact tan or tanbark colour, a very traditional sail colour for fishing boats. A thought but unlikely to happen as all resources are focused on buying a Fisher, but a full set of actual red sails to match the red Genny that Dylan helped make at Moore’s of Wroxham, and which he is very wedded too, would be quite a sight, maybe even unique on a Fisher.

    • 4 October, 2018 at 7:50 amOops!Ted Timberlake says:

      Oops! So much for trying to be a clever clogs. Moore’s read Jeckells of Norwich, was the red Genny sailmaker.

      • 4 October, 2018 at 3:24 pmOops!Ted Timberlake says:

        I don’t believe it! Third time lucky, I hope. Jeckell’s are in Wroxham! It just has to be an age thingy.

  13. 3 October, 2018 at 9:59 pmEuan Mckenzie says:

    Big mast head cruising chute will stiffen it up no end and keep it moving in the light stuff. Worked wonders on my boat and we now sail a lot more and motor less. You must have one in your collection

  14. 5 October, 2018 at 11:34 amGeoff D says:

    COJEIA is an excellent boat. I knew her original owner, Colin Bale, and she is superbly fitted out and was very well maintained at Lowestoft Cruising Club. Slipped every winter. Probably worth every penny but a top end boat for sure!

  15. 10 October, 2018 at 11:04 pmChris Methot says:

    If you want to be a happy sailor get the 34 footer. There is a reason why your wife goes for a swim in every cold water north sea port you stop in. Trust me get the 34 footer.

  16. 11 October, 2018 at 2:47 pmGary says:

    This boat appears to meet your requirements
    It’s got inside & outside steering positions as well for those long hot summer days Scotland is renowned for!!

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