Ultra long shaft 9.8 Tohatsu

I have been costing the autumn, winter and next summer’s adventures

I had been thinking about a Pageant which is currently sitting under a tree in ireland

that one has been put on the back burner for a while

so I am back to the centaur with dead engine idea

I reckon 10 hp will be enough so

I think I might need a Tohatsu Ultra long shaft

just got some quoutes in from here

http://www.theboatandoutboardcentre.co.uk/

Option one:

Tohatsu 9.8hp 4 stroke, Ultra long, elec start, with charging £2315 inc vat September delivery to us.

Option 2:

Tohatsu 9.8hp 4 stroke, Ultra long, manual start, with charging £2270 inc vat August delivery to us.

Both engines are special order and we would need a £600 non-refundable deposit at point of order.

all I need is to track down a boat I can put around it

D

This is about Dylan Winter's Blog, Sailing around Britain.

28 Responses to “Ultra long shaft 9.8 Tohatsu”

  1. 28 July, 2015 at 5:54 pmjohnny green says:

    https://youtu.be/dC9MnvVxzAA

    Hi Dylan, I thought you’d rather like this series of little you tube posts. The couple sail a Pageant around the Greek Islands and eventually back to the river Exe via the French canals.

    Hope you enjoy.

    J.

  2. 28 July, 2015 at 8:48 pmEade says:

    Hi D.

    On a sailboat, be sure to get what Yamaha calls a “high thrust”.
    I’ve just bought a Yamaha 8hp 2stroke (it’s a sailboat, remember) with a “workprop”: bigger diameter, differently shaped blades ánd much more going on in reverse. It sits in a well, (Etap 22) and does wonders compared to the 6hp 4stroke Mercury she had before.

    You still want to put it in a well?

    Why buy new? No reliable dealers for secondhand Honda or Yamaha?
    http://www.speurders.nl/overzicht/watersport-en-boten/motoren-buitenboordmotoren-en-binnenmotoren/None/yamaha-9-9-pk-langstaart-high-trust-148101811.html?sr_ab=1&query=yamaha+langstaart+9%2C9&category=3939&local-postcode=&local-distance_value=0&min_prijs=&max_prijs=&order_direction=&order_by=

    Greetings from a very wet and windy Akkrum

    • 28 July, 2015 at 9:30 pmRon G says:

      I’ll go with Eade on this. Your pictured prop is definitely geared a bit speedboaty rather than workboaty, and wouldn’t a special order to get it right risk being a bit “special” (not allowed to say slow now) on repairs, replacement and general tinkering?

      • 28 July, 2015 at 10:00 pmdylan winter says:

        the ultra long shafts are pretty hard to find second hand

        this is not an ordinary long shaft

        I will need a high thrust prop

        the snap was just lifted from the dealers site

        D

  3. 28 July, 2015 at 9:24 pmMike Jones says:

    Try LR Harris, Tohatsu dealer, bought my 6hp sailpro for £982 with tank inc VAT.
    No relation just my local place. Nice guy.
    http://www.lrharris.com/

  4. 29 July, 2015 at 12:41 amMartyB says:

    I have the Tohatsu 9.8 ultra long electric start with remote on my Hunter 22. It’s a 2009 model. Love it.

  5. 29 July, 2015 at 5:21 amWarren says:

    So you would be at a minimum £4500.00 for boat and new outboard, plus motor well install cost.
    A bolt in steel or stainless tube would be the quickest and cheapest way ,perhaps £2-300 to fabricate and a weekend to install
    So about $5000.00 all in.
    Not bad but you can get a running centaur one other motorsailer for about the same……
    Either would be a good choice.
    I would defiantly go with a steel fabricated tube., easy to add the bracket mounting nice and strong. And easy to instal and super reliable even 1/4″ steel would take yeas to rust away with no maintain . ever.
    W

    • 29 July, 2015 at 8:20 amdylan winter says:

      W,

      I did look at the possibility of using a length of drainage pipe. They are super tough and made of plastic. Making the epoxy stick to it is is almost impossible – say the people from the epoxy company

      I think ply would be better – it can be the right shape for the outboard

      we can make it as we go. I reckon three blokes, three days, £300

      as for buying a boat with an engine for 5K

      it would only be one with an old engine – 40 plus years old

      and it would be unreliable, hard to get spares and not lobster pot proof

  6. 29 July, 2015 at 7:44 am[email protected] says:

    Good luck whatever you decide. enjoying your journey. please keep going, stay enthused, as you inspire on so many levels. All the best, Ed

  7. 29 July, 2015 at 12:15 pmWarren says:

    Dylan
    I was going to suggest a a piece of filament wound fiberglass pipe that is used all the time in chemical plants, and bonded to existing fiberglass or other grip/frp pipe. But I like a steel tube with flanges on one/both ends as it becomes a simple bolt on and seal with 5200, Super simple and reliable and easy to extend the tube above the cot-pit floor as reqd. to adjust the height above the waterline. I see where it would be easier to work with plywood if you can’t get steel parts made.. I’m dealing with a boat with all sorts of rotting plywood and that’s above the waterline/in cabin so am a bit anti plywood when fiberglass or metal is an option.
    I think it sounds like a great project even if it is a little odd.(right up my street) , but you have to consider what YOU are comfortable with.
    Hard to help much from America…..
    W

    • 29 July, 2015 at 12:27 pmdylan winter says:

      I looked it up

      that would work –

      http://www.futurepipe.com/

      although can’t find an off the shelf supplier in the UK – yet

      I reckon I need about 1m of pipe – about -600 mm diameter or so

      I will persue it a bit more

      the well would be completely encased in epoxy – massively over engineered is my plan

      However, an off the shelf pipe would be great for the mark 2 once I have confidence that the well will work

      Dylan

      PS – aha a search for GRP pipe 500mm came up with a few hits

      they are used in the hydro-power industry

      D

      getting traction here

      http://rbjplastics.com/gallery.html

      http://www.ecfibreglasssupplies.co.uk/

      http://www.tohatsu.co.uk/tohatsu-mfs9-8.htm

      • 29 July, 2015 at 5:24 pmRon G says:

        600mm diameter. That’s a bit bigger than I anticipated, how big is this engine? You could fit a couple of 4hp seagulls in there and er….no? I can sense you glaring…
        East coast is the supplier I’ve always used so easy recommendation, they’ve gone a bit upmarket with the web site but I don’t know if the prices have gone upmarket too. Know their stuff though. You can call in on your way back and forth if you use the Tyne tunnel to save the postage, might need a phrasebook though.

        • 29 July, 2015 at 5:31 pmdylan winter says:

          I am hoping 500mm

          I need to find an engine and then take some cardboard to it and prototype well designed around the outboard

          I made a cardboard one for the 6hp

          then take that to a centaur and offer it up

          D

  8. 30 July, 2015 at 9:13 amPhil Sitch says:

    Dylan, I know you love the classical design of clinker how about saving a lot of money…..

    View item:
    Classic yacht sailing boat with possible mooring berth on the Humber

    End Time: 5 Aug 2015 20:30:28 BST

    This has less draught than a Centaur and a solid fuel stove for Jill , agree it needs a few planks …..

  9. 31 July, 2015 at 9:59 amPhillip says:

    Dylan,
    I got the 4-bladed Tohatsu propeller 8 7/10 x 5″ pitch and got the hub changed to fit it onto a Mercury 2 stroke 8 HP long-shaft OB motor, and it pushes my 3500kg yacht at 5.7kts maximum in flat water. So you can use a cheaper motor if you deem it reliable.

  10. 31 July, 2015 at 1:33 pmEade says:

    Hi,

    If a long-shaft would do you, the quotes you got are high:
    http://www.tweedehands-buitenboordmotoren.nl/aanbod/1235/nieuwe-tohatsu-98-epl.html (€2500 = GBP1750)

  11. 31 July, 2015 at 4:23 pmJustin says:

    Why not stick with your 6 hp tohatsu and get an extra long leg for it?
    Justin

    • 31 July, 2015 at 7:16 pmdylan winter says:

      I could do that – assuming they would sell me the leg extension

      it would also make it an unwieldy beast to put in the minstrel cockpit

      I think that the extra hp might be good to have

      and at the end I could sell the boat as a going concern

      D

  12. 31 July, 2015 at 7:54 pmJustin says:

    True

  13. 31 July, 2015 at 10:35 pmAngus says:

    Tohatsu 9.8 extra long, electric start, charging, sailboat prop, tiller, manual tilt – £2207 from Harbour Marine, Pwllheli

  14. 2 August, 2015 at 7:50 amdavid says:

    Dylan,

    The price you pay for a boat isn’t what you put into it. It’s the difference between what you pay and what you sell it for. The bodging with a sawzall and 5200 might get you something you like for 5k but at some point you’re going to have to sell it…

    • 2 August, 2015 at 8:01 amdylan winter says:

      the 2K boat will have a hole in it – the engine will be in good nick though

      not worth thinking about selling a boat before you even buy it…. that way lies madness

      D

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